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∂11-Feb-82  2109	ME  	UDP MUSIC4 OK  
There is no evidence that there was any head crash on your disk, so both
your pack and the drive are available again.  Both appear OK.

∂06-Feb-82  1213	TVR  	MS in SUN
John suggested that we should get together to talk about what is need as far
as hardware, and also software support.  Apparently, we may be able to get a
FORTRAN compiler for the 68000, but i understand there is some assembly code
involved, particularly for display output.   We also have a wide Varian-type
plotter in the new budget, but i don't right now know the target date.

∂05-Feb-82  1051	Purger	exceeding your disk quota   
You are exceeding your disk quota.
Files that occupy space beyond your quota are subject to purging.
If you don't delete some of your files, the purger will.

READ PURGE for details on purges.  Disk allocations and disk usage are
measured in disk blocks (a block is currently one track).  If you would
like to buy a bigger allocation, contact Lynn Gotelli (LMG at SAIL).
The unit of allocation, one aliquot, is currently 50 disk blocks.

Your disk quota is: 350 blocks
Your files occupy 807 blocks

∂04-Feb-82  2013	Alan Kotok <KOTOK at DEC-MARLBORO> 
Date: 4 Feb 1982 2310-EST
From: Alan Kotok <KOTOK at DEC-MARLBORO>
To: LCS at SU-AI
Reply-to: Kotok at KL1031
DTN: 231-7381
Mail-stop: MR1-2/E47
Message-ID: <"MS5(2045)+GLXLIB1(1056)" 11797836336.37.245.6183 at DEC-MARLBORO>
Regarding: Message from Leland Smith <LCS at SU-AI>
              of 29-Jan-82 1620-EST

We have not produced any more copies of the thesis, due to the pain
involved, and general laziness here.  We are quite embarrassed about this
state of affairs.  There seems to be several alternatives to the
Stanford Library acquiring a copy of the thesis at this time:
1) They could order it from University Microfilm.
2) We could generate a second generation copy.
3) They could copy your copy.
4) We could run another original on the Diablo, and re-reduce the music.
Let me know which you would prefer.

The state of graphics systems, and their availability is another
embarrassing subject.  I had hopes of prying loose a GT-40 system for
you.  Unfortunately those ancient things are the only graphics systems
we have in house for running SUDS on, and we have a severe shortage of
graphics terminals for that purpose.  DEC has been remiss in either
developing any reasonable alternative, or buying any outside so we
can replace the GT40s.  There is now a new product in development which should
do the trrick, but it is still a ways away.  I feel that if I could
identify a piece of hardware which would do you some good, and was not
a critical resource internally that I could get DEC to donate it, but
it doesn't look too hopeful at this time.  I wish I could be of more
help.

Have you investigated whether any of the new Stanford-designed graphics
terminals will be available?  Is a DEC GIGI of any use?

I really feel bad that I have let you down here.  If you have any other
suggestions, please let me know.
   --------

∂20-Jan-82  1818	Purger	exceeding your disk quota   
You are exceeding your disk quota.
Files that occupy space beyond your quota are subject to purging.
If you don't delete some of your files, the purger will.

NOTE: Disk allocations and disk usage are now measured in disk blocks (a
block is currently one track); for details, READ PURGE/3P.  If you would like
to buy a bigger allocation, contact Lynn Gotelli (CSD.Gotelli at SCORE).  The
unit of allocation, one aliquot, is currently 50 disk blocks.

Your disk quota is: 350 blocks
Your files occupy 1102 blocks

∂15-Jan-82  1543	Susan Hill <CSD.HILL at SU-SCORE> 	SAIL accounts  
Date: 15 Jan 1982 1526-PST
From: Susan Hill <CSD.HILL at SU-SCORE>
Subject: SAIL accounts
To: LCS at SU-AI
cc: csd.bscott at SU-SCORE, csd.hill at SU-SCORE, admin.reg at SU-SCORE

It was our understanding that Computer Science would not support the computer
usage of the Music people after August 1981.  I don't remember why there was
no discussion of this matter in August, but I guess better late than never.
CS is currently spending $522.36 per month to support the following people
and file:

Berger, John
Files, Music
LeBrun, Marc
McNabb, Mike
Schottstaedt, Bill
Shen, Yung
Smith, Leland
Toribara, Lynne

Do you currently have funding to which this expense can be transferred?  If so,
please give me the account number.

Is Bill Gosper associated with you?

Susan Hill
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∂14-Jan-82  1528	PAT  	udp's at SAIL 
If you can find me the list of files on the udp's you maDEbefore
you left, I will take it upon myself to try and get all this space
war settled.

∂13-Jan-82  1532	Jim Celoni S.J. <CSL.JLH.Celoni at SU-SCORE> 	[BEC.SHAPIN at USC-ECL: Help on printing music scores]
Date: 13 Jan 1982 1530-PST
From: Jim Celoni S.J. <CSL.JLH.Celoni at SU-SCORE>
Subject: [BEC.SHAPIN at USC-ECL: Help on printing music scores]
To: lcs at SU-AI

In case this didn't make the Sail BBoard or your mailbox, here it
is--I thought you'd be amused...  --Jim
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Mail-from: ARPANET site USC-ECL rcvd at 13-Jan-82 1301-PST
Date: 13 Jan 1982 1257-PST
From: BEC.SHAPIN at USC-ECL
Personal-name: Ted Shapin
Phone: (714)970-3393; Mail X-11
Addr: Beckman Instruments 2400 Harbor, Fullerton, CA 92634
Subject: Help on printing music scores
To: bboard at SU-SCORE, bboard at MIT-XX, bboard at SU-AI
cc: BEC.SHAPIN at USC-ECL

 1. I would like to print music scores using a Z80 and my Epson
printer.  Can anyone tell me of anything like this being done?

2. Is anyone using TEX to set music scores?
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∂01-Jan-82  0258	BRG  
PARTS

	I'M NOW I THE PARTS-MAKING PHASE AND HAVE RUN UP AGAINST SOME
PROBLEMS. MY MASTER FILE IS CALLED "PARTS[DAJ,BRG]". WHEN I RUN IT 
THROUGH PAGE FOR INSTRUMENTS "VLN1" OR "VLN2" OR "VLA", IT GETS
TO THE FILE AAAGB.TST AND DIES WITH AN ILL MEM REF.

ALTHOUGH IT DOES MANAGE TO MAKE IT THROUGH WHEN READING THE INSTRUMENT
"CLAR", IT HAS AN ERRONEOUS IDEA ABOUT HOW MANY BARS IT HAS. CONSEQUENTLY,
TYPING IN THE LAYOUT NUMBERS BECOMES DIFFICULT SINCE IT COMPLAINS
THAT I'M GIVING IT THE WRONG NUMBER OF BARS. IT SAYS THERE ARE 129
BARS, BUT THERE ARE REALLY 136 BARS (I COUNTED WHAT IT PRINTS ON THE VARIAN).
IT SEEMS TO BE SKIPPING A MEASURE OF REST IN MS. 74 (FILE AAASB.TST).
PERHAPS THIS IS SCREWING UP IT'S MEASURE COUNT. 

DAVID

∂01-Jan-82  0136	MRC  	MS  
Hi.  Do you think you could spare a few minutes sometime to show my wife how
to use MS?  Also, she is interested in computer music and I'm wondering if
there is anything she could do at CCRMA?

∂31-Dec-81  1646	BRG  
I'd like to make a high-quality copy of my piece, similar to the ones
you did for your trio (vln, trumpet, cl). What do you reccomend? 
Should I use the 4-section or the 8-section version of VCLIP/VARIAN? Also,
where do you go to get photo-reductions and how much does it cost?
- David

∂29-Dec-81  0111	BRG  
I MANAGED TO KLUDGE AROUND THE TEXT DISSPAEARANCE BUG I HAVE. BUT I SAVED 
IT IN CASE YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT. IT'S CALLED BUG.MS[DAJ,BRG]

∂26-Dec-81  0131	BRG  
WELL THE PROBLEM OF THE TWO FILES PRINTING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER WAS A RESULT
OF HAVING SOME TEXT OUT OF BOUNDS. SO THAT'S NO LONGER A PROBLEM. BUT THE
OTHER QUESTIONS ARE STILL VALID.

∂26-Dec-81  0024	BRG  
I HAVE A FEW BUGGY FILES THAT I CANT FIGURE OUT. (THIS IS DAVID SPEAKING)

ALL FILES ARE ON [DAJ,BRG] 
1. AAAFA.TST AND AAAFB.TST. WHEN THESE ARE PRINTED, A "RANDOM" LINE GETS
   DRAWN BELOW THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE. (AND MPV COMPLAINS OF OUT OF BOUNDS
   POINTS). ALSO, STAVE 4 OF THE TOP FILE (AAAFA) IS MISSING ITS BOTTOM LINE.
   PROBABLY THESE TWO PROBLEMS ARE RELATED. BUT NONE OF THIS PATHOLOGICAL
   BEHAVIOR SHOWS UP ON THE DISPLAY.
2. ENDEA.TST.  I WANT TO MOVE EVERYTHING OVER FROM 0,200 TO 10,200. HOWEVER,
   WHEN I SAY M (RETURN)
	      11,0,200
	      11,10,200
   IT DOESN'T MOVE AS EXPECTED. IF I THEN ASK IT TO REDRAW THE SCREEN, IT
   DOES MOVE, BUT ALL MY TEXT DISAPPEARS. THIS IS NOT JUST A DISPLAY-RELATED
   PROBLEM. IT DISAPPEARS FROM THE HARD COPY TOO. 
   ALSO THIS FILE HAS ANOTHER BUG, WHICH MAY BE RELATED. WHEN I TRY TO PRINT
   IT (WITH ENDEB.TST), IT PRINTS ON TOP OF THE OTHER FILE. I FOLLOWED THE
   SAME PROCEDURE THAT WORKED WITH OTHER FILES:
	R MPV
	ENDEB.TST 2
	(RETURN)
	(RETURN)
	(RETURN)
3. FINALLY, A QUESTION. THE END OF MY PIECE HAS SEVERAL TEMPI AND TIME
	SIGNATURES AT ONCE, SO I CANT RUN IT THROUGH PAGE. IS THERE
        A WAY I COULD SET (BY HAND) THE TOP PRINTING LINE FOR THE BOTTOM PAGES,
	THE WAY THE PAGE PROGRAM DOES. I KNOW I CAN DO IT WITH MPV, BUT
	IT WOULD BE NICE IF THERE WERE A WAY WHERE I COULD HAVE IT PERMANENTLY
	IN THE FILE TO BE PRINTED.

∂25-Dec-81  1733	Lowell Wood <LLW at S1-A> 	WAITS FORTRAN Info Request       
Date: 25 Dec 1981 1734-PST
From: Lowell Wood <LLW at S1-A>
Subject: WAITS FORTRAN Info Request   
To:   lcs at SU-AI
CC:   LLW at S1-A, JBR at S1-A   


Dear Professor Smith:

Jeff Rubin suggested that I contact you in my search for documentation on
WAITS FORTRAN--what it is, how it's used, etc.  Marty Frost's suggestions
in response to a similar request resulted only in my finding decade-old,
rather irrelevant stuff in F40.DOC[F40,SYS], and I thus hope that there is
more germane and timely material elsewhere that you might be sufficiently
kind to point me to.

Thanks in advance,

Lowell Wood
[ LLW % S1-A ]

∂10-Dec-81  1217	100  : trg	f4  
do you know where the help file for fortran (or some other
documentation is kept on this system? I did not find anything,
but the compile commands do recognize .f4 . ME pointed me to
you as a knowledgebale user. 

thanks you.

thomas gross


∂07-Sep-81  0726	ARK  	Prancing Pony Bill 

Your account is rather overdue.  As of 2 Sept., you owe $9.88.  Your last
payment was recorded before April.  Your credit limit has been lowered.
Please write a check payable to Stanford University and send it to Fran
Larson, Computer Science Dept. today.  Thank you.

Arthur Keller
Financial Manager
Prancing Pony

∂26-Aug-81  0955	LYN  	rd  
    Ross Duffin called asking how difficult it would be to correct a few
things on his edition...
    I'll set them down here, and let you judge for yourself.   Perhaps
you could tell me where the files are, and set down instructions for
size factors etc., in running the varian...

1. PCVA-B.PCQ (#5) Pour ce que voir: In the tenor part, the first clef should
   be on the second line from the top. It somehow got shifted down a fourth.

2. CJLDA-C.CJL (#32) Ce jour le doit: The clef should be a soprano one (on
   the bottom line)

3. BJBMC.BJ (#17) Boujour bon mois: Needs editorial sharps over the last 
   3 notes in the second line, and an editorial natural over the flatted note
   in the last line.

4. RVVUA-C.RVV (#37) Reveillez vous: Needs an editorial sharp over the 
   penultimate note.

5. ETRIA-B.ETR (#8) Estrinez moi: Needs a question mark at the end of the
   tenor text (after "conforterais")

   Hope you can figure out which files are involved.  I have no idea how
these are numbered, and just guessed at a lot of the spellings.  French
dictation over the phone was never one of my strong points.

   You must be frantically planning for the French connection.  I'd be happy
to take care of this, but I'm gonna need some instructions.  I'd like to talk
to you briefly before you leave, anyway.

						Lynne


∂18-Aug-81  1947	AK   via DEC-MARLBORO 	Judie's thesis copy   
I just got around to logging in on your machine, and found your
message.  I understand you will be departing soon.  Assuming Judie
is agreeable, who do we send it to, and how would we get reimbursed?

Also, you have a higher probability of reaching me these days by
sending mail to "KOTOK@DEC-MARLBORO", since I have little occasion
to use your machine.

Thanks.


∂29-Jul-81  1419	BRG  	before you escape...    
hi, beforeyou leave, could you please leave instructions to ms addicts on
 which udp's we could use, and sail taboos (if any) on which drives are
ok to use and times that are safe to grab a drive...
			thanks, have fun in paris
						-- jonathan

∂03-Jul-81  1906	AK   via DEC-MARLBORO 	Madrigals received    
Your package arrived in good order.  Progress toward final production
of thesis is being made.

Have you considered copying all the music files to a tape, and storing
it in your archives?  If that is practical, and you need a tape, I'd
be happy to send you one.

∂01-Jul-81  2352	LYN  	the shadow... 
Is it possible to have mini-X notes??  Looks like P4 +100 gets you minis,
and P4 +300 gets you X's, but I can't figure out a way to get both at the
same time.


∂23-Jun-81  1556	john at LBL-UNIX (& Mccarthy [csam]) 	MS SCORE System  
Date: 23 Jun 1981 09:34:35-PDT
From: john at LBL-UNIX (& Mccarthy [csam])
To: lcs at sail
Subject: MS SCORE System
Cc: merrill at LBL-UNIX

I enjoyed talking to you this morning. As I mentioned, I sing with a men's
Slavic Chorus called Slavyanka based in San Francisco, and we are looking into
ways to use computers in producing and editing our music. Your system sounds
like a very good possibility, so I would like to find out what specific
formats it uses for input. Even if we proceed temporarily on some other course,
I would like to do it in a way that would at least be compatible for your
system. As you will probably note from the header of this message,
my arpanet address here at LBL is john@lbl-unix. Hope it gets through
to you OK.

With best regards,
	John L. McCarthy

∂21-Jun-81  2036	HYS  	minor bug in score input mode
"SFZ" in score input mode produces only "SF"; I had to change manually P5
to 92 to get that "Z" in.  I think "SFZ" used to work a long time ago, since
I tend to use "SFZ" somewhat more often than "SF" (looks more emphatic).